I've been staying out of this

[ericcoleman]

At least in my own journal. But some things need comment

This was on the Sacramento county GOP website.



There is an article here

The important quote is from chairman of the Sacramento County Republican party, Craig MacGlashan. “Some people find it offensive, others do not. I cannot comment on how people interpret things.”

Comments

[bdunbar.livejournal.com]

I'm reluctant to go into details on Eric's thread; he's a good guy and I don't think he wants to host a flame thread.

So, briefly and politely and in no particular order;

1. Senator Obama's proposed tax cuts aren't tax cuts - they're refunds for everyone. Wealth transfer by another name is still wealth transfer.

2. I'm not thrilled by the people that work for Senator Obama and are his most visible and noisy supporters. I get a creepy weird vibe from people that act as if the guy is the Second Coming.

3. Voluntary Mandatory Public Service.

4. Business and long-term economic trends appear to be reacting to an all-but certain Obama victory in negative ways.

5. Advancing the idea that it is okey-dokey to invade Pakistan if we can be certain that the Talliban are there is not a good idea.

6. The Bill Ayers connection is a minor concern - it's not a deal-breaker - but I'm twitchy about pols that hang out with with guys like that.

There are more, but these are the ones at the top of my head.

Now, yes, McCain shares some of these problems and he's got a whole truck-load of his own.

But given these uncertain times I'd rather have a GOP president who promises (for what's it worth - all politician promises are a bucket of warm spit) that the GOP has learned it's lesson and they really-truly mean to be the party of small government and fiscal responsibility.

In the end, I don't trust the government and want to be treated with benign neglect. The Republicans may or may not do that.

I _know_ the Democrats won't.

[blur01.livejournal.com]

Ok. Thanks.

[Since I was the one that asked, and I got my answer, I would appreciate if others would be kind enough to "move along"]

[ericcoleman]

I have three mildly snarky questions here ... the first is in three parts.

2 - As compared to the guy with the "Obama is a half breed muslin" sign on his yard? And the woman who said on national TV "He's an arab"? If you're going to be a bigot, at least get it right. Or the official GOP website that puts, say, a picture like the one above up. Doesn't that make it the official GOP party line, at least in Sacramento county?

5 - As compared to what our government is doing right now?

6 - As compared to William Timmons? Or Alaska First?

[bdunbar.livejournal.com]

2. You find all kinds of nuts, weirdos and fruitcakes everywhere, I agree.

2a. I have no idea what makes an official GOP party line or who decides. I suspect that simply slapping up content on a server isn't enough.

5. I don't like what the government is doing right now in that regard.

6. I'm not thrilled by those either.

There are no perfect candidates and I'd just as soon throw the the lot of them back and pick a random guy out of the phone book and draft him or her for four years.

[barondave.livejournal.com]

As you say, this is Eric's thread so I don't want to delve into a debate, but. In all these cases, minus your editorializing, I agree with Obama and/or think McCain is far, far worse. Obama will be a great president, and he'll surround himself with great people.

[singingpatient.livejournal.com]

sadly, many presidents, including Reagan, promised to make gov't smaller, only to see it balloon once they got in office.
it's so big now i don't know if it can be reeled in by anybody.

both guys voted for the bailout, which, if you want to talk about transfer of wealth! oy! and to the very people who already robbed us blind.

obama wants to get bin laden (it's about time). mccain wants to go to war with iran. i don't want any more war. but i want a guy who has an even temper, and open mind, and will try diplomacy first. and by the track record, that's obama.

i'm ready for a smart, thoughtful president. i don't care what color.

[barondave.livejournal.com]

Reagan is a special case. As I've written about before, Reagan didn't merely promise to make government smaller and balance the Federal budget, it was his entire campaign for 16 years. He excoriated Democrats and Republicans alike for deficit spending. And yet the first thing he did once in office was the biggest flip-flop in American political history. I trace much of the conservative's disconnect with reality to 1981, when cognitive dissonance forced the far right to deny what was obvious to everyone else, and the concomitant savaging of anyone who dared to point out the reality of the situation.

But I digress.

[bdunbar.livejournal.com]

Obama will be a great president, and he'll surround himself with great people.

We'll see.

But the man is not infallible and some of his associates will not be angels.

Whatever. As long as I have a job I like, interesting work to do and I can perfect my trade, I'll be happy.

[barondave.livejournal.com]

But the man is not infallible and some of his associates will not be angels.

Entirely true, but misses the point. Obama will be much, much better than McCain (who's losing it), and his appointees will be much, much better than anyone McCain would pick (just look at his first choice: Palin). If your criteria is competence and ability to assess talent, you'd be a staunch Democrat in this election.