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I will not be posting Friday for a very good reason. I'm on the road.

This may be a wildly unpopular rant ... deal with it.

Geeze, get over it already. People talk about how they were trying to change things behind the backs of the users. I knew about it in a timely manner, and, other than my friend's list, I don't pay much attention to what goes on on LJ.

Things change ... LJ is a business and they have to make business decisions. Servers aren't free. Programmers aren't free. NOTHING is free. So they have to charge for memberships or sell advertising. They have to, otherwise it goes under. I pay for both of my LJ's. So should you, whether it's a yearly fee, or by having an ad on your free service. It's 25 bucks a year ... if you can't afford that, how can you afford a computer?

LJ is the best of the bunch by a long shot. Myspace sucks goat balls (thank you Matt Stover for that lovely image), even if it is necessary to what I do. I've looked at Facebook, and it doesn't seem much better.

I live in isolation here in Iowa, and LJ is the fastest, easiest way to keep track on what is going on in my friend's lives. But ... things change and mostly for the better. But come on, whining every time that there is a change that you are going to leave ... or have a strike or whatever other gibbering that may be done every time there is a change ... if you can't deal with this on LJ, how do you cope with the real world?

Date: 2008-03-19 06:28 pm (UTC)
guppiecat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] guppiecat
I can't cope with the real world... that's why I'm on LJ. ;)

Date: 2008-03-19 06:47 pm (UTC)
guppiecat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] guppiecat
The real world is far far worse.

Date: 2008-03-19 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emiofbrie.livejournal.com
I think the crux of the rage against LJ is the fact that they made that decision after their advisory board warned them they shouldn't do it. The question many LJ users are asking is why did they hire Brad back if they're not going to listen to him or the advisory board?

Date: 2008-03-19 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emiofbrie.livejournal.com
I know...but Brad himself has stated that they rarely listen to the advisory board. He was the first to question what his purpose in the company really is. He is seriously wondering if LJ simply hired him back so they would look good to the users.

Date: 2008-03-19 06:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] billroper
Well, it wasn't just that. It was also the fact that they didn't announce it, but cleverly slid it into a FAQ just ahead of the time that it took effect. Now I can understand announcing "Effective now, we've changed this", but that was just a crazy way of doing it, because someone was going to notice it and the shit would hit the fan, just the way that it did.

Once the shit hit the fan, they proceeded to spin it up to high by sending out their representative to explain that the reason that they'd eliminated new Basic accounts was because it was too confusing to people who were registering a new LJ account. While it's true that two choices is marginally easier to work with than three, I'm guessing that the level of truth in that particular spin was somewhere asymptotically close to zero.

The way to lose customers and influence people is to treat your userbase like they're a bunch of idiots. So far, so good.

It doesn't take an MBA to figure that out.

Date: 2008-03-19 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pheltzer.livejournal.com
Maybe they can join all the actors and democrats who moved to Canada in 2000 and 2004

Date: 2008-03-19 08:30 pm (UTC)
billroper: (Default)
From: [personal profile] billroper
True. Note that I haven't been one of them. :)

I'm just saying that these guys are flunking customer relations pretty badly.

Date: 2008-03-19 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pheltzer.livejournal.com
This isn't intended as an attack at you Bill... just my thoughts on the matter and this seemed like as good a place as any to throw them in....

The problem that I have with all the outrage floating out there, is the change doesn't affect existing users one bit. People who have basic ad-free accounts today will continue to have basic ad-free accounts tomorrow. The change is simply for people who come in after the fact and want to join the party. They'll have to either pay for an ad-free experience or get the ads with their free account.

So yes they made the change without telling anyone, but when was the last time your bank discussed it with you before raising their fees?

Yes the advisory board appears to be a public relations stunt. Hardly an original position taken by a company.

Yes their excuses as to why they made the change were thinner than soviet era toilet paper. Frankly though I don't see that they're really obligated to discuss why the changes were made.

It's their company and they can do what they want with it, and if the changes make their user base go away... well live and learn. If anything I think their sin is over communicating and trying to give the appearance of making people happy.

Date: 2008-03-19 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bammba-m.livejournal.com
i knew about it, too, and i usually don't pay attention to such things.

what i read was, "blah blah blah, my account isn't affected in any way, blah blah blah."

still, as far as ways to keep in touch with folks scattered about the globe, i enjoy lj, and will probably keep enjoying lj. until such time as they decide to charge more than i can afford.

Date: 2008-03-19 08:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] billroper
I'm not taking it as an attack, so we're cool. :)

Look, I'm simply saying that you will get better results by announcing a change than you will by hiding it, unless your intention is to tick off your customers. If your bank started charging you a per-check fee without notifying you first, you'd be ticked, right? They're certainly allowed to make the change (modulo the appropriate banking regulations), but making it and not telling you is a major faux pas.

And as far as the excuses go, it is better not to make excuses than it is to make up ones that are lies. If you say, "We thought this was the best thing to do," that's fine. If you say, "We did this to make your life better," you invite argument.

And guess what. They got the argument. :)

Date: 2008-03-19 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pheltzer.livejournal.com
Oh definitely. I guess my point is... the changes that were made, announced or otherwise, and whether they were stupid about how they discussed it, didn't affect the existing userbase at all so I can't understand why they're so torqued off.

Date: 2008-03-19 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] controuble.livejournal.com
the changes that were made, announced or otherwise, and whether they were stupid about how they discussed it, didn't affect the existing userbase at all so I can't understand why they're so torqued off.

My sentiments exactly - no strike for me.

Date: 2008-03-19 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jcw-da-dmg.livejournal.com
A few minor points.

My computer was a gift. It's all I can do to afford DSL.

MySpace and Facebook both suck, and neither are necessary to what I do.

Other than that, [sticks fingers in ears] la, la, la, I can't hear you!

Date: 2008-03-19 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jcw-da-dmg.livejournal.com
And one major point. Unless and until LJ forces me either to pay them money or to look at an ad, I will not jump ship.

Date: 2008-03-19 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eeknight.livejournal.com
I'm still angry that my local theater no longer does half-price Thursdays. I mean, COME ON! I loved half-price Thursdays, and I always bought the bigger popcorn and soda so they were making some of it up on concessions. But no, they did away with it. You MANIACS! You blew it up! Aw, damn you! God damn you all to hell!

Date: 2008-03-19 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] born-to-me.livejournal.com
I'm with you. Let's protest. I'll make a big bag of popcorn here at home, you get a couple two-liters, we'll put movies on our iPods and stand outside the theatre. We can pause our movies from time and hurl epithets.

Oh, maybe we should bring chairs. Standing might suck. ;-)

Date: 2008-03-20 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jcw-da-dmg.livejournal.com
As long as we're complaining off-topic, I really wish all moving vehicles (especially including bicyclists) in Chicago and Evanston would obey the traffic laws. And I wish someone would offer me full-time permanent work.

Date: 2008-03-20 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jcw-da-dmg.livejournal.com
They are? OOOPsie!

Date: 2008-03-19 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildcard9.livejournal.com
This post is the first time I am hearing about any strike this Friday. Sorry, I will be posting and reading as usual.

Date: 2008-03-20 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lisagems.livejournal.com
For me, it's just a matter of 'one thing more'. I really don't care about the ads. I do care about the PR stunt that is the so-called advisory board. I care even more about the back door censorship. I know you probably haven't been following it. Most people haven't. It happened to strongly affect some friends, who aren't shy about letting people know that it happened. It is the very least, literally, that I can do. I cannot leave LJ. It is my primary point of contact with a lot of people. I *took* the account with ads (which I ignore, except when I'm laughing at them) because I *KNOW* that programmers aren't free, and until the censorship stops, I'm not willing to pay outright for the service. so, ads pop up. Sometimes they're funny.

The point that is trying to be made, if there is no one looking at your ads, you won't get ads. If you chase away a large part of your base population, you lose. It is a business, just as you stated. And business is customer driven. Customer driven.

So, LJ, pay attention to your customers.

Re: ;-)

Date: 2008-03-21 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylakae.livejournal.com
Heh. So true, isn't it?

Re: ;-)

Date: 2008-03-21 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com
I love being linked to and having random people show up in my LJ! Thank you!

Current Mood: Happy

Re: ;-)

Date: 2008-03-21 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylakae.livejournal.com
My pleasure. :-)

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