The nominations are in

[ericcoleman]

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame nominations that is.

Madonna
John Mellencamp
The Ventures
Leonard Cohen
Dave Clark Five
Little Walter
Gamble And Huff

So, what do you think? And none of the "so and so belongs in there before so and so". Yeah, that's a given. What do you think of the current bunch. Do any of them NOT belong there? I think one doesn't, and I will talk about that in comments later.

Comments

[ericcoleman]

Woody and Hank influenced rock and roll in a deep and fundemental way ... Leonard ... not a bit. Sure some folks do covers of his songs (and always wildly superior to his versions) but other than that, he has nothing to do with it whatsover.

I thought of an example!

[mle292.livejournal.com]

Haven't you ever had to sit in an English class where you read music lyrics that were presented as if they were poetry?

Though it's complete bullshit, I'm sure that Leonard Cohen did have influence in the genre's sometimes arrogant notions about lyrics.

Re: I thought of an example!

[ericcoleman]

Maybe, but in such a peripheral way as to be completely unimportant. He certainly had a big influence on other songwriters such as himself ... but that means you have to put in folks like Rufus Wainwright in 20 some years ... and that's just silly.

Re: I thought of an example!

[ericcoleman]

There is a listing of folks who have covered his songs in his entry in Wikipedia ... as you can see if you go look, there are just a TON of rock and rollers who have done his songs ...

Makes sense in an ironic sort of way.

[mle292.livejournal.com]

And influence counts a lot in that Cleveland building, probably more than it should, but the association that makes the decisions needs to suck up to contemporary artists.

Rock and Roll is just Folk and Country and Blues and Jazz all smooshed together. Some of it's just plain stolen sounds.

It's probably fitting within the genre that some of the inductees are stolen from other areas, too.

Re: Makes sense in an ironic sort of way.

[ericcoleman]

The comment that there was a TON of rock and rollers who have done his songs was sarcasm ...

Re: Makes sense in an ironic sort of way.

[mle292.livejournal.com]

I'm not a big Leonard Cohen fan, but in the Wikipedia article there are several Rock and Roll artists who have covered his music and clearly thought of him as influential.

I don't respect the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame enough to have chosen him because it was actually *right* though, so I'm not sure if I can effectively defend this position.

Re: Makes sense in an ironic sort of way.

[ericcoleman]

several ... not many, hardly even a few, but several. Of the dozens of covers mentioned, there are maybe 4 or 5 rock bands/artists